Despite keynotes by the likes of Ivar Jacobson, who noted how many agile principles were around long before XP emerged, it seemed to me that the community was making little headway.

尽管有像IvarJacobson这样人的关键提示，他们注意到有多少敏捷原理在XP出现很久之前就已经有了，在我看起来，这个社团没有得到多少进展。